Lisbon to Vilamoura

There are two or three things to consider in making your decision as to how to get to Vilamoura from Lisbon.

1) Vilamoura is not the Algarve! It a modern Golf/Marina Complex. There are regular public buses to Quarteira and Albufeira during the day but if you want to explore the Algarve during your week here, a hire car is highly recommended.

The region is only about 160km by 40 km but its wide diversity from the wild rocky west coast, the historic town of Lagos where I live, to the inland hills and the Spanish border, is very difficult to explore without a car.

Consequently, you might consider hiring a car.

If you did, I would recommend picking it up at Lisbon Airport on your departure from Lisbon, cross the Tejo by the Vasco da Gama bridge and take the toll-motorway to the Algarve. On arriving at the A22, bear left on the the Via Infante Motorway and continue until you come to the Loulé/Almancil/Quarteira/ off ramp, bear right until you come to Quarteira and follow the signs for Vilamoura. (Transit Time with stops - 3 hours.)

A reputable hire company in Lisbon is Auto-Jardim.

You can see details here:

http://www.carhireyes.com/autojardim/

If you follow this option make sure you specifiy if you need an automatic, as most vehicles this side of the pond are manual shift.

2) If you really just want to relax in the Hilton, or not hire a car, I would recommend the train as it is a wonderful trip over the 25 Abril bridge and through the Alentejo. There is a cafe on-board and it is a wonderful relaxing way to spend 3,5 to 4 hours.

There are two types of Intercity - Alpha Pendular & Intercidades.

- The first operate twice daily from Lisbon Gare Oriente, via Lisbon Entrecampos stations to the Algarve. If you are staying in a central Lisbon Hotel the second station is the one you want.

- The second type are called Intercidades and follow the same route but stop at more stations and operate three times a day. There is a fourth evening service on Fridays.

You can find the timetable on my blog by scrolling down on the right hand panel, until you come to the section entitled:

>>>> Algarve & Portugal - Travel Transport Links

Click on the item

>>>> # Portuguese Railways - 2008 - Lisbon - Algarve Faro/Lagos Timetable

You will be able to download it in pdf format.

For Vilamoura you will want to detrain at Loulé Station. There are often no taxis there but am sure you can ask the Hilton to have one meet you. It will take about 15 minutes from there to Vilamoura. Alterntively, continue to Faro Station where there are always taxis. It will take 25 minutes to Vilamoura and cost about € 25 to € 35 depending on time of day/week.

3) If buses really are you preference, bus operator RENEX operate several services daily from Lisbon Gare Oriente (same as the train station) to Vilamoura.

You can find the timetable on my blog by scrolling down on the right hand panel, until you come to the section entitled:

>>>> Algarve & Portugal - Travel Transport Links

Click on the item:

>>>> RENEX Bus Service - Lisbon to Algarve timetable

Look at the the top panel entitled Lisboa - Loulé - Lisboa

N.B. "P" means departure / "C" means arrival.

Note that there is no Metro link yet to Lisbon Airport. On arrival you will need to grab a taxi or bus to your hotel.

Operator Rede Expressos also operates this route. Buses leave from Lisbon Sete Rios Coach Station (Metro Jardim Zoologico.)

I have published a copy of the relevant timetable here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2929565/3seteriosvilamoura


Hope this helps and thanks again for contacting me.

La Coruna - Geneva

I have spent some time on this one and yes, it is difficult.

There are only two trains a day linking Vigo to Porto and these each take +-4hrs:30 min. La Coruna - Vigo by train takes a further 2 hours!

La Coruna is a lot further than Vigo so I really don't think this route is doable by public transport.

If you have a car, the distance is 301km taking about 3:30 mins.

As regards buses there are services from La Coruna to Porto Airport operated by alsa.es

However, the Friday La Coruna to Porto to service operates too late to tie in with the flight from Porto.

On Thursday however, there is a bus from La Coruna Bus Station to Porto Airport leaving at 09:00 arriving 12:30.

There is then a direct flight from Porto to Geneva operated by Easyjet.com as follows

Thursday July 4th

Porto to Geneva

dep. 13:55, arr. 17:00

For the return there is a flight leaving Geneva for Porto as follows:

Sunday July 6th

Geneva to Porto

dep. 13:40, arr. 14:55

However, the current return price is about € 200.

There is a bus from Porto Airport to La Coruna as follows:

Dept Porto Airport 00.45H Arrive La Corunna 06.00H

Easyjet's Summer La Coruna - Madrid service has not yet be confirmed. Not available till 18th May.
It may be that there will be better routings via this route.

However, you might want to have a look at routing via Barcelona although the transit times are somewhat short.

July 4th.

La Coruna to Barcelona - Spanair

09:35 La Coruna 11:10 Barcelona

Barcelona to Geneva

Easyjet

12:05 Barcelona 13:40 Geneva

or

La Coruna to Barcelona - Spanair

15:25 La Coruna 17:00 Barcelona

Barcelona to Geneva - Easyjet

18:05 Barcelona 19:40 Geneva

Sunday, July 06, 2008

Geneva to Barcelona - Easyjet

10:20 Geneva 11:50 Barcelona

Barcelona to La Coruna - Spanair

12:50 Barcelona 14:35 La Coruna

I would suggest that if you can get hold of a car, driving to Porto would probably be the best option.

As regards, rental accomodation in La Coruna, I unfortunately live in the Algarve in the South of Portugal and am not local to La Coruna.

However, if you would like to visit my blog,

http://barlaventostravelblog.blogspot.com/

scroll down to the bottom of the right hand panel, and click on "View my complete profile", you could then click on email and send me your requirements. I will then see if I can assist although it may take some time.

Lisbon - Oriente Station-store luggage

There is also a fairly large luggage locker facility on the parking garage level of Gare Oriente.

Find your way down the escalators until you arrive at the level with the internet cafe and cafes/food court.

With the Internet cafe to your right, head past the shops and you will enter the long white passage that leads to the parking, toilets on the left and half way along on the right, a doorway leading to the left luggage lockers.

calicas, lagos

To be honest, it depends which part of Calicas the villa is in.

In any event, I concur with Cubsur. It is a long walk into town and back after a night out.....especially as there is a substantail climb.

You will have to be prepared to get taxis back or one of you will have to be alcohol free of the night.

BTW I live in Meia Praia 500m from Calicas and am often up there, and have often walked the area! :))))

Unfortunately, the restrictions on these forums does not allow one to post links longer than 140 characters to appropriate maps on Google Maps.

If you go to my blog:

http://barlaventostravelblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/calicas-lagos.html

I have posted an extract from the appropriate google map of the area.



Items 1 & 2 approx indicate the area of Calicas, while item B indicates the centre of downtown Lagos. Walking even via the Marina bridge is at least 2 kms.

EDP shops throughout Portugal

Loulé?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The main EDP office for Lagos and the Western Part of the Algarve is in Portimão.

You can also do a lot online through their portal (in English as well!!!!!!!):

http://www.edp.pt/EDPI/Internet/EN/Group/Customers/Customers.htm

For Emergency Phone Support see the following link:

http://www.edp.pt/EDPI/Internet/EN/SiteServices/Tools/Contact/default.htm

For a list of all EDP customer shops throughout Portugal view below. (To enlarge click on the box on the right of the menu bar below.)

LojasEDP - Upload a doc

Read this doc on Scribd: LojasEDP

how to get from Leiria to Caceres

This route is not easy and is only possible by bus and will require two bus changes.

Furthermore, it is not possible on Sundays as there is no early morning bus between Leiria and Lisbon

Operator: Rede Expressos - Leiria to Lisbon Sete Rios
website: http://www.rede-expressos.pt/0010.asp

Dept: Leiria 06:00 h Arrive Lisbon Sete Rios: 07:50 h Price: 10.00 € Frequency : Weekdays except public holidays.

or

Dept: Leiria 07:00 h Arrive Lisbon Sete Rios: 08:50 h Price: 10.00 € Frequency : Weekdays and Saturdays.

Then:

www.alsa.es

Dept: Lisbon Sete Rios 09:30 h Arrive Badajoz: 13:45 h Price: 25.00 € Frequency : Daily

Then.

Dept: Badajoz 16:30 h Arrive Caceres: 18:00 h Price: 8.16 € Frequency : Daily

Note that the tickets will have to be purchased en route - there is no easy Internet Booking, so allow plenty of time to buy tickets.

Hope this helps.

Faro to Malaga

As you have already surmised, there are no direct links by train, rail or air between Faro and Malaga - or for that matter between Faro and any Spanish Mainland city.

Viamichelin.com quotes as follows for the drive by car from Faro to Malaga:

Distance: 414km including 397km on motorways
Estimated drive time:04h18

You should note that it is very expensive to do inter-country drop-offs with hire cars between Spain and Portugal and vice versa.

Air is not really feasible as you would have to travel to Lisbon, get a low cost to Madrid and then another low-cost to Malaga.

Rail is essentially the same.

There is a bus service operated by www.alsa.es with a bus change in Seville at Plaza das Armas Bus Station as follows:

Town Dept
FARO 02:00
VILA REAL ST ANTONIO 02:45
AYAMONTE 04:00
HUELVA 04:30
SEVILLA 05:45
MALAGA 08:45

This would be the most direct.

You might also be able to catch one of the two daily buses operated by DAMAS/EVA from Faro to Seville (weekdays only in winter.)

Have a look at this page on Cubsur's site for more info:

http://thomasallen.home.sapo.pt/travel/001.htm


From Seville there will be several daily services to Malaga from either Plaza das Armas or Prado Bus Stations including these services operated by ALSINA GRAELLS SUR, S.A.

02:50 03:30 TODA LA SEMANA
11:00 03:30 TODA LA SEMANA
12:00 03:30 TODA LA SEMANA
14:00 03:30 DE LUNES A SABADOS
16:00 03:30 TODA LA SEMANA
17:40 03:30 TODA LA SEMANA
19:00 03:30 VIERNES Y DOMINGO
20:15 03:30 TODA LA SEMANA
20:30 03:30 TODA LA SEMANA
22:00 03:30 TODA LA SEMANA
23:58 03:30 A VIERNES DOMINGOS Y FESTIVO

Alternatively, you could get a cab from Seville Plaza das Armas to Estacion Stª. Justa Train Station and get the AVE high speed train to Malaga changing at Cordoba.

This will probably be very expensive and probably not save much time.

For more info check out the spanish railways site

www.renfe.es.

Hope this helps

Another Tragic Algarve British Child Incident

The BBC this morning reports that two British children aged 6 and 2 were taken into temporary care by social services in the Algarve, on Friday night, after hotel staff became very concerned at the fact that both their parents collapsed drunk.

The BBC report can be found here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7383439.stm

As of 10:39 this a.m. google news was listing 19 reports of the affair.

See:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1156073236

It was reported on the Portuguese TV news last night and yesterday's national "Correio da Manha" reported the affair here:

http://www.correiomanha.pt/Noticia.aspx?channelid=00000010-0000-0000-0000-000000000010&contentid=0548B0A2-F229-48A2-A36A-5759761246FA

This occurred on the week-end of the anniversary of the Mccann affair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell were the parents thinking off?

I rarely make political or social comment on this blog.

However, over the years, I have to confess that I am increasingly ashamed and would really prefer not to be British.

The crass Sangria/Vinho/Beer/Sun obsessed / Obesity encouraging hedonistic activities of many Brits at home, and internationally, make me feel increasingly like ceasing to be a subject of Her Majesty.

The British complain about Americans, and with Dubya and Cheney in the White House who can complain. However, when are the British going to take the logs out of their own eyes and see themselves as world sees them!

The problem is not restricted to younger Brits. On March 20th this year the BBC published this article about "Saga Louts":


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7305669.stm

Not a few days later walking across the car park in Lagos to the car at 10:30 at night there were 2 British couples staggering their way somewhere. The two women were so far going that one actually staggered a metre into my path even though I tried to avoid it.

The Portuguese Press over the past 24 hours have been reporting on the issue and not favourably:

As of 10:39 this a.m. google news portugal was listing 17 reports of the affair.

See:

http://news.google.pt/news?hl=pt&tab=wn&ned=pt-PT_pt&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1159862603

I am tired of the crass hedonistic xenophobic attitude exhibited by many Brits when abroad.

At least, the Portuguese Hotel Staff and authorities did something and took care of the kids.

When is Britain as a nation going to have leaders who are going to confront the masses with there own sad image as a society, and get people to take responsibility for themselves and show respect to others?

ADDENDUM: 6th May 2008.

I am pleased to see that the Portuguese Authorities have decided to pursue this matter further.

Even if the parents in this case are not charged, it will hopefully(perhaps, albeit forlornly) send a message to people to enjoy their holidays but be responsible, particularly if they have kids with them.

See the following links:

The Times

The Scotsman

Google News - Links to lots of articles worldwide on this!

Google News Portugal - Links to articles in the Portuguese Press

Bus from Albufeira to monchique spa

Have a look at Cubsur's site here:

http://thomasallen.home.sapo.pt/travel/010.htm

This shows buses from Portimão to Monchique which go right by the Spa.

Look at:

http://thomasallen.home.sapo.pt/travel/002w.htm

for buses from Albufeira to Portimão.

Hope this helps.

Getting from Faro to Seville

Inter-country car drop between Spain and Portugal is very expensive and only offered by the big-boys like Avis, Hertz etc.

Have a look at this post on my blog which may interest you:

http://barlaventostravelblog.blogspot.com/2007/09/hiring-car-in-faroportugal-and-dropping.html

Note there is no train between Faro and Seville.

Bus is the only option.

Here is a synopsis of relevant schedules: (Click on the image to enlarge!)