You are correct.
The last train from Faro to Lisbon leaves at 17:00 hrs.
It may appear early but public transport in the Algarve shutdown early.
Coach Operator http://www.rede-expressos.pt/ have buses leaving from Faro Bus Station for Lisbon Sete Rios Bus Station at 19:00, 19:30 and 20:30.
Transit time is between 3 hours 15 minutes and 4 hours.
Your friend would need to take a taxi between Faro Airport and Faro Bus Station. There is a local bus Nº 16 leaving Faro Airport at 17:40.
Monday, 23 March 2009
FC Porto vs Manu U??????
You're going for footie, aren't you!!!!!
FC Porto vs Manu U.??????
A Minibus would probably be cheaper but as your average mini-bus will only legally carry 8/9 persons, it may be expensive.
I also do not think it would be worth the risk hiring a 9 seater and trying to get away with 10 on board as the Portuguese Police will be out en-masse in Porto and on the approaches to the city.
Your real problem is that you need to get back to Lisbon by 08:00 on the morning of 16th April.
The nearest train station to the airport is Gare Oriente where there is also a bus station. You would need to take cabs to and from the airport. About 10 minutes. The last train departs for Porto at 21:39 arriving at 00:39.
There is a regional train taking 4 hours that leaves Porto - Campanha at 1h23 and arrive Lisbon - Oriente (10 minutes by cab from the Airport) at 5h42. Problem is you can't buy tickets in advance.
Train timetables here: http://www.cp.pt
www.renex.pt have a bus service leaving Porto at 01:15 and arriving Lisbon - Gare Oriente Bus Station at 06:00. Again you can't buy tickets in advance.
The following transfer company is quoting € 960.00 for the service you require for 10 persons return.
http://www.low-cost-transfers.com/lisbon-airport/index.php?goloc=51&transfer=Porto
The advantage of such a service is that they provide a driver and you don't have to worry about parking, drinking etc.
FC Porto vs Manu U.??????
A Minibus would probably be cheaper but as your average mini-bus will only legally carry 8/9 persons, it may be expensive.
I also do not think it would be worth the risk hiring a 9 seater and trying to get away with 10 on board as the Portuguese Police will be out en-masse in Porto and on the approaches to the city.
Your real problem is that you need to get back to Lisbon by 08:00 on the morning of 16th April.
The nearest train station to the airport is Gare Oriente where there is also a bus station. You would need to take cabs to and from the airport. About 10 minutes. The last train departs for Porto at 21:39 arriving at 00:39.
There is a regional train taking 4 hours that leaves Porto - Campanha at 1h23 and arrive Lisbon - Oriente (10 minutes by cab from the Airport) at 5h42. Problem is you can't buy tickets in advance.
Train timetables here: http://www.cp.pt
www.renex.pt have a bus service leaving Porto at 01:15 and arriving Lisbon - Gare Oriente Bus Station at 06:00. Again you can't buy tickets in advance.
The following transfer company is quoting € 960.00 for the service you require for 10 persons return.
http://www.low-cost-transfers.com/lisbon-airport/index.php?goloc=51&transfer=Porto
The advantage of such a service is that they provide a driver and you don't have to worry about parking, drinking etc.
Where to visit in Spain from Algarve
I was over in Seville a couple of weeks ago by car.
See my report on the drive on my blog here:
http://barlaventostravelblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/lagos-to-seville-again.html
As our Peugeot had just a an encounter with one of the new, rapidly expanding population of, jumping bollards of Lagos, (I was not driving at the time :) and I am sure it has nothing to do with the fact the brother of the Mayor of Lagos owns the local Peugeot dealership), I took a vehicle from Luzcar. They allow their vehicles to go into Spain as far as Seville with no problem at all and at no extra cost.. Tell them when you book you intend going to Spain.
On arrival in Seville, I suggest you park at the underground parking under the Bus Station at Plaza das Armas or at Cristobal Colon. From there on walk or use the TUSSAM bus service.
See my report on the drive on my blog here:
http://barlaventostravelblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/lagos-to-seville-again.html
As our Peugeot had just a an encounter with one of the new, rapidly expanding population of, jumping bollards of Lagos, (I was not driving at the time :) and I am sure it has nothing to do with the fact the brother of the Mayor of Lagos owns the local Peugeot dealership), I took a vehicle from Luzcar. They allow their vehicles to go into Spain as far as Seville with no problem at all and at no extra cost.. Tell them when you book you intend going to Spain.
On arrival in Seville, I suggest you park at the underground parking under the Bus Station at Plaza das Armas or at Cristobal Colon. From there on walk or use the TUSSAM bus service.
Electrical Installations - Portugal
If you apartment is not new or several years old, best to get the wiring checked by a local sparks.
It is unlikely with new builds, but with older properties there have been cases where builders skimped on electrics, using what a Portuguese electrician friend calls "Electro-Pedreiros", or labourers masquerading as electricians.
I, myself, in the past have refused to install desktop computers down here after arriving at properties and finding the electrical system unearthed.
If it is a new build, should be OK as Portuguese Safety Regs are now much much tighter.
It is unlikely with new builds, but with older properties there have been cases where builders skimped on electrics, using what a Portuguese electrician friend calls "Electro-Pedreiros", or labourers masquerading as electricians.
I, myself, in the past have refused to install desktop computers down here after arriving at properties and finding the electrical system unearthed.
If it is a new build, should be OK as Portuguese Safety Regs are now much much tighter.
Fly into faro-then where? Isla canela/ayamonte..etc
You can fly into Faro and hire a car to go to Spain.
Luzcar.com do such rentals.
I was down at Faro Airport on Friday and Auriga Crown the Spanish Car Hire operator is opening up a booth at Faro Airport as from April.
Although they have not yet got prices on their site nor indications of inter-country rates, I have confirmed from a webmaster that I know who operates a rental site marketing their vehicles that they have already advised him about their intention to move in the Algarve / (Portuguese) market. If their inter-country drop-off rates are reasonable this could be of great benefit to those wanting to tour the Iberian Peninsula by Car.
http://www.aurigacrown.com
I have also heard rumours that Pepecar is considering a similar move.
As regards Isla Canela, it is a typical modern tourist resort with lines of aparment blocks, beaches and very little else. Ayamonte has some character but there is limited public transport between the two.
I would suggest that Lagos, Albufeira, Praia da Rocha or Monte Gordo might be more of interest.
Luzcar.com do such rentals.
I was down at Faro Airport on Friday and Auriga Crown the Spanish Car Hire operator is opening up a booth at Faro Airport as from April.
Although they have not yet got prices on their site nor indications of inter-country rates, I have confirmed from a webmaster that I know who operates a rental site marketing their vehicles that they have already advised him about their intention to move in the Algarve / (Portuguese) market. If their inter-country drop-off rates are reasonable this could be of great benefit to those wanting to tour the Iberian Peninsula by Car.
http://www.aurigacrown.com
I have also heard rumours that Pepecar is considering a similar move.
As regards Isla Canela, it is a typical modern tourist resort with lines of aparment blocks, beaches and very little else. Ayamonte has some character but there is limited public transport between the two.
I would suggest that Lagos, Albufeira, Praia da Rocha or Monte Gordo might be more of interest.
Saturday, 21 March 2009
Low Cost - Scotland to Lisbon
Globespan, Ryanair, Easyjet operate from Glasgow, Prestwick and Edinburgh to Faro Airport. You can get a taxi from Faro Airport to Faro Train or Coach Station and then a cheap bus or train to Lisbon in about 3 hours.
Train will only really be possible if you arrive prior to 15:00.
However, there are Rede Expressos, EVA and Renex buses to Lisbon with the last departure at 20:30, arriving 23:45.
Train will only really be possible if you arrive prior to 15:00.
However, there are Rede Expressos, EVA and Renex buses to Lisbon with the last departure at 20:30, arriving 23:45.
Thursday, 19 March 2009
Ryanair - Dublin - Porto cancelled
Ryanair has announced the termination of the following route from July:
Dublin - Porto
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news.php?yr=09&month=mar&story=gen-en-160309
Dublin - Porto
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news.php?yr=09&month=mar&story=gen-en-160309
Vilamoura to Guarda
Guarda is 55lkm from Vilamoura by the fastest car route, which includes toll roads, which will make the trip quite expensive. Transit time with stops 6 hours each way.
Train times from Loule Station (15 mins by taxi from Vilamoura) to Guarda via Lisbon vary between 7:30 mins and 10:20 minutes each way.
I have post an extract of the current relevant train timetable here on Scribd:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13412496/Loule-Guarda
I have post an extract of the current Bus Times by Rede Expressos Bus here on Scribd:
http://www.scribd.com/full/13412787?access_key=key-23dywot7q8fw3fitqadv
Transit times are similar or longer than the train.
So if it is an urgent trip, car would be better. However, whichever mode you choose, going up and down even on two days will not leave you much time in Guarda.
Train times from Loule Station (15 mins by taxi from Vilamoura) to Guarda via Lisbon vary between 7:30 mins and 10:20 minutes each way.
I have post an extract of the current relevant train timetable here on Scribd:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13412496/Loule-Guarda
I have post an extract of the current Bus Times by Rede Expressos Bus here on Scribd:
http://www.scribd.com/full/13412787?access_key=key-23dywot7q8fw3fitqadv
Transit times are similar or longer than the train.
So if it is an urgent trip, car would be better. However, whichever mode you choose, going up and down even on two days will not leave you much time in Guarda.
Travel from Lisbon to Algarve to Malaga
Public transport links between Spain and Portugal are almost exclusively restricted at present to long distance coaches.
While you will not need a car in Seville, you will need one to explore the Algarve and you may well miss places you want to see in Spain.
I would therefore strongly recommend flying in and out of Lisbon on this trip. Rent a car in Lisbon and drop it off there. Intra-country drop offs are very expensive in Europe. Be aware to specify an automatic if you are from the other side of the pond as in Europe we mainly drive manual shift vehicles. I also suggest a vehicle with aircon as Andalucia will be very very hot at that time of year. (Between 35º and 40º during daylight hours.)
You routing should be by toll road from Lisbon Airport via the Vasco da Gama Bridge to Albufeira. (+- 2:30 mins). Albufeira - Seville freeway (2 hours). On the Seville to Malaga route there are various options, including the scenic long one via Jerez/Algecira/Marbella.
While in Malaga, with a car you can also make an easy day trip to Granada and the Sierra Nevada, although it will be very hot in the former.
To do all the above by bus would at least double travel time and add a lot of inconvenience.
While you will not need a car in Seville, you will need one to explore the Algarve and you may well miss places you want to see in Spain.
I would therefore strongly recommend flying in and out of Lisbon on this trip. Rent a car in Lisbon and drop it off there. Intra-country drop offs are very expensive in Europe. Be aware to specify an automatic if you are from the other side of the pond as in Europe we mainly drive manual shift vehicles. I also suggest a vehicle with aircon as Andalucia will be very very hot at that time of year. (Between 35º and 40º during daylight hours.)
You routing should be by toll road from Lisbon Airport via the Vasco da Gama Bridge to Albufeira. (+- 2:30 mins). Albufeira - Seville freeway (2 hours). On the Seville to Malaga route there are various options, including the scenic long one via Jerez/Algecira/Marbella.
While in Malaga, with a car you can also make an easy day trip to Granada and the Sierra Nevada, although it will be very hot in the former.
To do all the above by bus would at least double travel time and add a lot of inconvenience.
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